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Post-Modernism...

4/17/2010

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I have a bit of a dilemma.  I am metaphorically speaking caught between two worlds of faith.  I know for sure that I don't fit into the world of Modern Christianity for a plethora of reasons.  I never have fit there and it is unlikely that I ever will.  The stuffy proceedure being more important that the substance of the event being my chief problem with it.  In essence the sizzle being more valuable than the steak if you will.  The finatical adherence to dogma being more important than how that dogma is implemented.  The strict acceptance and unswerving loyalty perspectives bother me greatly also.

I have struggled for many decades of my life to either force myself to fit in there, or to move that faith off of the items that I find to be objectionable.  Sadly, I have been sorely disappointed on both counts.  All that is left is for me to accept that I don't fit there.  I need to have the funeral for that type of faith at least as it impacts and relates to my own life, and move on.

The problem really becomes, what's next.  Where do I go from here?  What course to I chart for my ship of faith?  What distant shore of faith should I aim for?  What is the target, the end goal, the nexus that my soul should be aiming for?

I don't have an answer for this.  Largely because the only other major philosophical perspective out there is one that I don't find agreement with.  Post-Modern Christianity is what I am talking about here.  I find its fundamental tennents of having no fundamental tennents to be troubling.  And I can almost hear God laughing at my dilemma.  I can almost hear God saying, "Fine, you didn't like how it was arranged here, then take a lot at this".  I know God isn't like that for real  but that's how it feels sometimes.

The Post-Modern movement is populated with a lot of people who in my careful inspection are Jesus movementers from the 1960's and 1970's that never grew up or grew out of being a hippie.  They espouse non-conformist theological positions that I can find no support for in the text of the Bible.  They espouse radicalism for radicalism's sake without any thought to the overall consequences.  They marry together Marxist and Socialist thought with theology, and the cocktail is in my humble opinion toxic.

My review of this movement leaves me feeling more nervous than a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs.  It is convoluted, and it lacks a coherent structure.  It doesn't make rational or logical sense most of the time.  And at some points it has more in common with a cult than a legitimate theological expression that should be taken seriously.

And yet I know that in life you can't stand still.  I have to keep moving.  The journey of life doesn't let you sit still and cogitate the formulas for all that long.  You aren't allowed in most cases to stand in one place spiritually long enough that grass might grow up around you.  It just doesn't work like that.  The earth keeps spinning, the sun rises and sets in its monotonous pace.  The moon goes through it's phases of existence as if drilling a hole in the curtain of night.

And so it is that I have to take this moment to decide this.  To stay where I don't fit theologically, or to go where I am completely uncomfortable and nervous.  Its a hard choice to make.  None of the big picture items are easy, and I suppose it's always going to be like this.  I wish it wasn't but wishing doesn't make it so.

The easy thing is that my dilemma won't involve a church switch.  I attend a Vineyard that is a virtual 31 flavors theologically speaking.  There is a little bit of everything expressed there.  And really my dilemma was never about the physical expression of where I attend church, but rather the theology by which I live my life. 

That's where I am right now.  I think this will be a recurring rant of mine, and I will add more to it as I resolve this issue going forward.
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Jason Coker link
4/17/2010 04:07:35 pm

I feel your pain, but there's really no choice. Once you've rejected foundationalism there's no going back. Besides, postmodernism isn't really a destination, it's just the best way to describe the transitional flux in-between Modernity and whatever-comes-next, and it's likely to be that way for the foreseeable future.

This comment was interesting:

"The Post-Modern movement is populated with a lot of people who in my careful inspection are Jesus movementers from the 1960's and 1970's that never grew up or grew out of being a hippie. They espouse non-conformist theological positions that I can find no support for in the text of the Bible. They espouse radicalism for radicalism's sake without any thought to the overall consequences. They marry together Marxist and Socialist thought with theology, and the cocktail is in my humble opinion toxic."

That's a bit of an unfair caricature, and it makes me think your reading list of PM folks has been restricted to a few popular authors who make their money selling books (McLaren perhaps?). If you tell me who you've been exposed to I could probably suggest a few other authors who are "postmodern" and still thoroughly biblical. You can't entirely escape Derrida and Marx, because they're two of the most significant thinkers in history, but not all postmodern theologians are smitten by them (even if all must, on some level, deal with them).

Peace.

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Todd French link
4/18/2010 07:33:15 am

Jason,

Your point is well taken. My comments did indeed go a bit too far with an unfair caricature. My comment regarding 'radicalism for radicalism's sake' was an attempt on my part to speak to what a few in the PM movement have been doing. They seem more interested in doing and saying outrageous things largely to anger those in the modern community. This radical minority doesn't seem interested in anything more than the shock value attached to their comments or actions. In my view, it doesn't help the broader movement, it doesn't build unity with the broader Church, it doesn't help to forge a broader coalition within what remains of christendom.

It is this radical minority that bother me most. The transition to post-modernity is daunting enough without certain people making it more difficult.

I read McLaren and found his views to be less than practical on this subject. I also read Peter Rollins and honestly I was left quite concerned. I found little I could agree with in his work. For awhile, it put me off the entire idea of Post Modernity.

As for the Marx and Derrida, I really find their theories to be wonderful, but wholly impractical this side of Heaven. "From each according to his means to each according to his needs", only works if people aren't selfish, proud, arrogant, and utterly fallen. The Jesus movementers took a stab at making some of this work in a commune setting and it all failed utterly. That doesn't mean its impossible, but it has yet to be successfully implemented.

I wasn't trying to be unfair or offensive in this post. It was a stream of consciousness style posting. To the degree that it was unfair and over the top, I humbly apologize.

Peace,
Todd

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Jason Coker link
4/18/2010 08:06:48 am

Not at all! No need to apologize. I'm certainly not offended, especially since I find myself swimming in exactly these waters and feeling much of the same things. Like I said, I feel your pain : )

Also, I'm not commending Marx or Derrida, only pointing out that their stature requires engagement. That's part of the reason you'll encounter them so often in PM writing (particularly Derrida).

I figured it was McLaren and Rollins you were referring to. For what it's worth, I think McLaren has genuinely laudable aspirations, he's but his theological reach tends to exceed his grasp. Rollins, on the other hand, can be tough to swallow at times although he's certainly brilliant. But I haven't quite figured out where he's going ultimately, and I often feel he's traversed well beyond orthodoxy.

I would suggest picking up the work of Stan Grenz, John Franke, and James K.A. Smith. A good place to start is the latter's small, yet handy, Who's Afraid of Postmodernism? It frames the issues briefly and very fairly, as does Grenz's book, A Primer on Postmodernism. There's also Franke's, Manifold Witness.

For a more practical, yet still thoroughly theological, re-envisioning of Christianity from a post-modern perspective you could move on to James K.A. Smith's recent, Desiring the Kingdom - the first in a planned 3-part series.

If you're feeling really ambitious at some point you could tackle Beyond Foundationalism by Grenz and Franke - an attempt to construct an evangelical, post-foundationalist theological method. Great stuff, but more dense for sure.

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Todd French link
4/18/2010 08:24:03 am

Jason,

Thanks. I will have to check into it. I get your point about Marx and Derrida. I just have a hard time taking them seriously is all. Mentally I hear people quote them, and I my mind feels like someone is quoting a belief in a flat earth, or defending the efficacy of using leeches to bled a patient, or the existence of Phlogiston, or the value of phrenology. It's my problem.

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